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Thursday, October 19, 2006

Conservatives Must Not Stay Home

You may have heard (over and over and over) that conservatives plan to stay home on election day. First things first - I am pretty sure that most of this is psychological warfare being played by the media wing of the Democrat party, commonly known as the mainstream media. Or, it could be just wishful thinking on their part. But in case there are any conservatives out there who are planning to teach the Republicans a lesson by not voting, allow me to correct you.

Numero Uno) If the Dems take control George Bush will be impeached. President Bush needs to be able to give his full attention to the war but instead he would be forced to spend time fighting off the ankle biters. Instead of giving our troops the leadership they need and deserve, he will be forced to give his attention to legal proceedings. Not only will time be wasted fighting off impeachment hungry Democrats, but every move that our Commander in Chief makes will result in an inquiry as to why it wasn't done better. He will not be able to cough without Harry Reid calling for an independent counsel that will determine whether or not he properly covered his mouth. And not only will our troops suffer, but this would be a great injustice done to a man who deserves more. We need to remember the leadership and love that George Bush has shown our country during the hardest times most Americans can remember. He deserves better. Many reading this blog don't agree with a lot of what the President has done. Same here. But he has my respect and my loyalty and if he doesn't have yours then, yes, I question your patriotism. (Before any of you have a heart attack, loyalty does not necessarily mean blindly following and agreeing with every decision, but it does mean giving his position due respect)

2) If you have a problem with Republicans being too liberal then punish them during the primaries. The general election is not the time. I agree 100% that a lot of these RINOs (Republicans in Name Only) deserve to be tossed out. But pretending that staying home is your political statement is a crock. If you wanted to do something then it should have been done long before now. For many the reason they are taking this road is because doing something, like supporting a candidate during the primaries, is much harder than doing nothing, like staying home.

C) Do you realize how much damage could be done by the Dems if they take control? Forget about getting a decent bench appointment. Good-bye ban on sucking the brain out of partially born babies. Good-bye tax cuts. Good-bye surveillance on the enemy, and for that matter good-bye war on terror.

If you're mad at the Republicans fine, but you still need to get up off of your blessed assurance on election day and vote and then do a better job during the primaries in 2 years.

Thank you - that is all.


  • At 2:40 PM, Blogger Democracy Lover said…

    Conservatives should not stay home, they should go into the voting booth and have the guts to vote for the Democrat. Realizing that the Republican Party has become the party of wasteful, irresponsible spending, politically-motivated coverups of pedophiles and theives, and the chief promoters of a totally bankrupt foreign policy - realizing that, they should vote for the Democrat.

    The best thing we can do for our troops is to give them good leadership. Impeaching Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush would be the best action we can take to support our brave young people in uniform. They deserve honest leaders who are grounded in reality, not sociopaths who pay no attention to facts.

    What conservatives have to do is realize that the most important thing to a Conservative is the US Constitution and a Congress that will pass an act nullifying habeus corpus and a President that would sign such an act are in violation of their oath of office and deserve to be removed.

  • At 4:12 PM, Blogger Cameron said…

    I agree. Not with you, DL, with the other guy. The primary is where it's at. The problem is that nobody pays attention until the final two. Which might not be all that bad, since it would give those that are paying attention more power in the choice.

    However, I think there are really two sides to elections, local and national. There are local Dems I will vote for. I'm leaning towards voting for Jerry Brady, the democratic candidate for Idaho governor. There are some state candidates I might vote for as well. The national choices are more complicated. Giving national congressional power to the national democratic party is hard to stomach.

  • At 5:52 PM, Blogger Jason Green said…

    I guess I am the other guy. I am glad that you can see that there are real problems with the national democratic party. Please vote Republican.

    DL, always good to hear from you.

  • At 8:32 PM, Blogger Cameron said…

    Jason "Other Guy" Green,

    No offense, I just enjoy being clever with DL.

    The very first thing that the national democratic party will do if they have control of Congress is to raise taxes. Well, either that or begin impeachment hearings. It'll be a tight race.

    Months ago, Representative Pelosi basically announced on Meet the Press what she would do if given power:

    MR. RUSSERT: So wait a minute. So they’ll be no increase in spending if the Democrats take control of Congress?

    REP. PELOSI: No deficit spending. I pledge that to you. No deficit spending, pay as you go. Pay as you go.

    MR. RUSSERT: So even if you had to raise taxes to pay for the new program?

    REP. PELOSI: Well, you put everything on the table and you decide what are the priorities for the American people.

  • At 10:11 AM, Blogger Democracy Lover said…

    I would hope that a Democratic Congress would take seriously its oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. If they do, then impeachment will be the second order of business after repeal of the Military Tribunals Act.

    The problem in this nation is not high taxes. We have the lowest tax rate of any industrialized democracy. What we need is progressive taxation, not regressive taxation. We need low taxes on working people that gradually increase to high levels on the wealthiest Americans - those who have benefited most from our government. States should dramatically reduce property and sales taxes and recover the lost revenue through progressive income taxes. Is that the Democratic Party's objective? Hardly. Like the Republicans are too wedded to the moneyed interests that fund their campaigns and provide cushy jobs for their family members and board of directors positions for the congressman upon retirement.

  • At 11:30 AM, Blogger Jason Green said…

    You say that the wealthiest have benefited the most from our government, whereas I say (more correctly) that the govenment has benefited the most from the weathiest of us.

  • At 1:05 PM, Blogger Democracy Lover said…

    The wealthy would not be so wealthy if it were not for the infrastructure provided by government, the economy presided over by government, the security provided by government, the education provided our workforce or the legal system that supports them.

  • At 6:18 AM, Blogger Jason Green said…

    And the government would not be able to provide any of these things (to all people) if it were not for the wealthy.

    DL, the reason you are going to lose this argument is because you have a misunderstanding of what causes what. But please, keep 'em coming.

  • At 2:38 PM, Blogger Cameron said…

    DL, you are right when you say that the problem with this country is not high taxes. That's because they've been lowered. The fear is that if Democrats have control of Congress, they will "repeal tax cuts", which is a round about way to say "raise taxes." Representative Pelosi has already said that is what she expects to do, and I believe her.

    Here are the 2006 tax rates. The lowest rate is 10% (which is lower than it was during the 90's), with gradual increases for the more wealthy. So the Republicans have already given you the income tax policy you desire.

  • At 2:47 PM, Blogger Democracy Lover said…

    What Pelosi wants to do is repeal the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, not raise taxes on you and me. The problem with the tax rate tables was introduced by Reagan. The tiered system with a top rate of 35% covering everyone from the middle class up to Bill Gates is little more than a stealth giveaway to the rich.

    Take a look at the Top US Marginal Income Tax Rates 1913-2003. What we need is a return to the tax rates in effect during the administration of that great Republican conservative President, Dwight Eisenhower. That was a period of great growth in our country when we saw good stable wage jobs for our people, low unemployment. In short, those were the good ol' days most conservatives want to return to - so let's go back to the tax rate and maybe we'll get there sooner.

  • At 11:47 AM, Blogger Cameron said…

    $336,550, the income qualifying for the 35% tax rate, isn't middle class.

    But you are right to say there is a difference between $336,550 and Bill Gates money. However, I think that 35% is high enough. The solution then would be to create more levels between the 10% and the 35%. But that would have disadvantages as well.

  • At 11:50 AM, Blogger Cameron said…


    How do you reconcile a desire to deny Democrats a majority in Congress with a desire to always elect the best candidate regardless of party?

  • At 3:55 PM, Blogger Jason Green said…

    Great question. First I think that most of the time you can tell whether or not a person is a good candidate by what platform he or she aligns with. Since I am (obviously) more in line with the Republican platform this will mean that I am more inclined to support those that align themselves with the Republican platform (i.e. is running as a Republican). The same is true for those on the left, only a mirror image.

    So, frankly, there will be very few times that one will think of someone from the "other" party as being the most qualified individual.

    However, this very situation could possibly occur. In this case I think it depends on the circumstances. In this election I can't think of one reason I would want a Democrat in office more than I would want a Republican. If the Republican is a rat and the Democrat is a saint (it was really hard for me to type those words by the way) then I would still vote for the Republican because, in terms of voting for a legislator, you are voting for the way someone will vote - not for what type of person they are. The exception to this rule is when the Republican candidate has extreme ethics violations like in the case of Foley but unlike the Democrats the Republicans wouldn't allow someone to continue in their capacity anyway so it's a non-issue.

  • At 3:54 PM, Blogger Democracy Lover said…

    Thanks to all the "conservatives" who stayed home last Tuesday. Your nation owes a debt of gratitude to you.


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